# 70 – BONUS: Navigating Career Peaks Without Burning Out: What No One Tells You | Empowerment & Career Advice

00:00:00] Loree Philip: Hi, and welcome to Daring to Leap. I'm your host, Lori Phillip. Welcome to this bonus episode, all about burnout. This is not a usual episode. It is a sneak peek from the Ready to Shine Summit, a free event that kicks off on May 6th that you're invited to, and you can find the link in the show notes. Join us today as Dr.

[00:00:21] Loree Philip: Tiffany Brown Bush teaches us how to know if you're burned out, why women experience burnout more often than men, I had no idea about this one, how to address it from the nervous system and brain perspective, and learn real tools that you can use to monitor stress levels so you can address it before it ever reaches a burnout state.

[00:00:46] Loree Philip: Let's dive in.

[00:00:48] Loree Philip: Dr. Tiffany Brown Bush is a diversely trained licensed neuropsychotherapist, traditional naturopath doctor, and certified in functional neurology.

[00:00:59] Loree Philip: She [00:01:00] specializes in ADHD, brain health, anxiety, dysregulated nervous systems, and TBIs for individuals, young people, and their families. Welcome to the summit, Dr. Tiffany.

[00:01:13] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: Thank you so much, Lori. I'm so happy to be here.

[00:01:15] Loree Philip: Yeah, I am so happy to have you here. And what's cool about this is so our topic today, so everybody's on the same page is we're going to be talking about burnout.

[00:01:25] Loree Philip: Yes. And burnout is a hot topic because it's a real issue that a lot of women are dealing with in their careers right now. There's just a lot of stress, a lot of demands. We're getting pulled in so many different directions. But today we have Dr. Tiffany here who has looked at this from a. different perspective from a nervous system perspective, a brain balancing perspective.

[00:01:51] Loree Philip: And so we're going to get all of your insights as to, burnout and how we can approach it so that we can deal with [00:02:00] it and feel better.

[00:02:02] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: I'm looking forward to it.

[00:02:04] Loree Philip: Awesome. So let's, let's kick it off. Let's just talk about burnout. How are you seeing burnout right now with your clients? I mentioned that it's the real thing, but are you noticing it as well on your end?

[00:02:17] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: Oh, absolutely. And, it shows up because of the way I'm trained. It shows up in my office is like, I'm really anxious. Yes. Or I'm really overwhelmed. So that's what women are coming in saying to me. And then when we start to look a little bit deeper, it's like, Oh wow, your nervous system is actually quite dysregulated.

[00:02:37] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: I think it's not just feeling anxious, you're actually in sympathetic overdrive. Those sensations you're experiencing in your body or your autonomic nervous system, like this is not just like, like you're saying, or it's a, it's a real thing. This isn't just like a mindful, like psychologically based phenomenon.

[00:02:58] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: Right. Of saying, I'm [00:03:00] anxious. Your girl, your whole body is freaking out. Like this is like a nervous system dysregulation. You're burnt out. And that's how I'm seeing it. It's showing up as not understanding what the signs and symptoms are. For many of the women and me saying it, it is happening and it makes sense that it's happening and this is how you would know.

[00:03:22] Loree Philip: Okay, great. Let's start with that. What are some of those signs and symptoms that if maybe people are watching this going, I think. I think I'm burned out or I think I'm feeling a little bit of anxiety. What are some of the common themes with people that are in burnout?

[00:03:37] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: Yeah, there's a sense of not wanting to engage in a lot of the things that they wanted to do and this was what they worked so hard for and now they're here and they don't want to do it anymore.

[00:03:49] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: Just in the morning, waking up and their mind is racing, thinking about what they have to do and they just want to go back to bed. That's one of my biggest signs where there starts to be like, in the [00:04:00] morning, I don't feel restored and then at night I'm not sleeping well. Those are for women particularly, and if I'm talking about my, my women in their late 30s and their 40s where we're perimenopausal, we've got so much going on in that, that age range.

[00:04:16] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: We get a big sleep disturbance piece. And then it's like, Oh, I don't want to do this. I'm not looking forward to this. I don't, I want to avoid this. And then this sense of overwhelm, right? To boot, it's like the quality of things isn't as high as it used to be. And then I think I'm forgetting things that I didn't use to forget.

[00:04:34] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: Like what's going on with my memory? Is something wrong with me? Those start to be those signs. For me, with my population of burnout, and then we start seeing other things go on with food, alcohol and weight.

[00:04:48] Loree Philip: So we have all of this stuff going on with us. Right. And I, I really appreciate this discussion that it's not just in our head, in our mind that [00:05:00] our body is shifting and going into this dysregulated state.

[00:05:05] Loree Philip: Yeah. Like just. Freaking out a bit. Right. And so that, that amplifies, I believe what we end up experiencing because, okay, now it's past my mind. It's my body and everything's falling apart. What, what can people start to do when they get to a point of, you know what? I think I am burned out. I I'm overwhelmed.

[00:05:29] Loree Philip: I'm not sleeping well. What are some of the. Practical things people can do to to start to turn that for themselves. Yeah.

[00:05:38] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: Yeah, absolutely I'm also like it'd be nice if there was a bit of an owner's manual for these types of things So that's yeah, maybe

[00:05:45] Loree Philip: we should make one Yeah, I

[00:05:47] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: guess like a nervous system mechanic over here and here's the owner's manual That's what it feels like I end up doing and I will personally share As someone who has experienced burnout a number of [00:06:00] times, I did it and I have a lot of grace and I want, I always ask clients, please, and patients, please borrow my grace.

[00:06:08] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: Right? Like, I know you're used to having the cape on. I know you're used to being super woman. Your body is giving you some feedback. And at this time in your life, cause you have the resilience of your twenties of like, you can kind of grind hard on the system and it's like, it's a system that bounces back.

[00:06:26] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: But when you start to get into your mid late thirties and forties, it's a different kind of hormonal experience. And you either radically accept it or it will take you down so the first thing is just have grace, listen to your system, it will not lead you astray. That's the first piece of just honoring it.

[00:06:46] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: And then you're going to have to take a more feminine, Energy about how you do work now. If you're starting to feel like burnt out and you're in that age group that I'm [00:07:00] talking about, your energy can't be so masculine because testosterone is very different than estrogen and progesterone. So we need a gentler approach to things.

[00:07:10] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: I start to tell women, I need sleep to become a priority. It has to be, you have to sleep like your life depends on it because under the hood, it really does. It really is starting to depend on it. So you have to prioritize it. And I think when we're not in that feminine flow energetically we, we throw sleep out.

[00:07:29] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: It's one of the first things to go. We cut into it. So we go to bed later, we burn the candle at both ends. We're getting up earlier. And that's a big source I find of burnout. So grace and then prioritize sleep. And I can get into that a little bit more. And then blood sugar is another one that I really focus on with people.

[00:07:51] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: It's like, you've got to, you've got to know that your blood sugar is a big piece of that.

[00:07:55] Loree Philip: Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's so interesting. I'm glad you brought up [00:08:00] this, gentler approach. I don't know that we're always super aware about how cause we're talking about professional lives and careers and the way that our careers are generally set up was with a man in mind as far as like this.

[00:08:23] Loree Philip: Drive, drive, drive, push, push, push, results oriented, burning that candle at both ends, although it's not necessarily good for them either. No. I'm just saying that at some point it will come back to us and if, if we're not set up in a way to manage that, you will start to feel it in your body in a, in a not so great way.

[00:08:50] Loree Philip: Yeah. Yeah. So I do appreciate this perspective, and especially around the grace and prioritizing sleep. Like [00:09:00] everybody, Dr. Tiffany is here telling us, you need to take, get some rest. And it feels like that would be a luxury, like, oh, I do that on the weekends or on vacation. No, no, no. It's a priority.

[00:09:16] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: Especially if you're feeling this right now. Mm hmm, mm hmm. Absolutely. And it's one of the first things I see not prioritized. It's there's a lot of living on wine and coffee and, and not sleeping. Yeah, I do know. Yeah, right? And it's like, you could do that in your 20s. You could maybe even do it in your early thirties.

[00:09:37] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: And then the rules change as we start to look at perimenopause. And one thing I, I would love to take a moment to share, and this is very much out of the Amon clinic. I'm trained, trained through the Amon clinics and Dr. Amon, he's on PBS and he's written all these books and he loves the female brain and he likes to teach that The female brain is [00:10:00] like super complicated, and if it was likened to like a road or an interstate, it's like L.

[00:10:06] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: A., super complicated, spaghetti, like it's all these things. And men are like a very simple two lane road that's just forward and backwards we're going. And because of the intricacies of a female brain, we are much more susceptible to burnout.

[00:10:23] Loree Philip: We're much

[00:10:24] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: more susceptible to mental health issues.

[00:10:26] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: If you think about most females who are career driven and in the midst of this phase of life, they're dealing with parent health issues. They've got children, they're the heartbeat of their household or they're on their own doing this. So they're in their heartbeat of the household, right? And then we've got this complicated hormonal experience that's going on that is designed to create life.

[00:10:51] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: And when it is deciding, okay, I'm done with that. That is a remodeling, a full remodeling glory of the female brain. The only [00:11:00] other time that this occurs for women is when she hits puberty. So like 14, 13 years old. The brain completely changes. It's doing that again at the same time that women are grinding on their nervous system and the estrogen is dropping and the progesterone is shifting and there's not as much buffer anymore.

[00:11:23] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: And already it's a super complicated brain. So to your point, men set this environment up, but we have to Feminize our way, of navigating it because just we don't have the same kind of brain as well as hormones that they have. So we have to do this differently.

[00:11:41] Loree Philip: Mm-Hmm. . Okay. Yeah. I'm so glad you brought in that example.

[00:11:46] Loree Philip: I did not understand the difference between the, the male and the female brain. Mm-Hmm. . And it makes so much sense. Mm-Hmm. it, it does. And it's interesting because. You're right. Everything is coming to a [00:12:00] head in a career woman's life at that age that we're talking about.

[00:12:05] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: Yes.

[00:12:06] Loree Philip: And the status quo isn't going to work anymore if your brain and your hormones are changing.

[00:12:13] Loree Philip: And so we have to learn to show up and be and treat ourselves differently.

[00:12:19] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: Yes. Yes. Yes. Absolutely. And, and so when I've, I've had people who've had high power demanding careers and very masculine energy around them in the workplace and show up in my office and have to really make a pivot.

[00:12:36] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: Really have to just like they, they just used all their resources that they, they were really burnt out. And as we remodeled what the future would look like we would change things around like sleep patterns and start time for work and green space in the middle of the day, just, and still a demanding job, but just done in a way that was kinder to this [00:13:00] person, to this female, and, and part of what you get when you ascend. is more independence, more autonomy, more authority, right? So use it, use it to not work through lunch. Take your lunch break. I can't tell you how often I tell women, I need you to eat and not in front of your computer and not in the middle of a meeting. I, I need you to build in time to have your meals at times that make sense so that your blood sugar is stabilized.

[00:13:29] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: Right? The, the wine has to become tea at night because the wine actually disrupts your sleep cycle. It isn't, when I get your ordering data, the, the moment you've had alcohol before bedtime, I can tell. You don't get into deep enough sleep, which makes you more prone to burnout. And so I just, it's, it's almost like relearning how to do things because what you did in your twenties won't work now.

[00:13:56] Loree Philip: Yeah. And I think one of the things that, and [00:14:00] you've probably have a lot of really good experience with your clients on this. But one of the assumptions that we make when we go into our careers and we're navigating our, our positions and moving up the ladder, whatever it is, is that there is a certain way to do our role.

[00:14:17] Loree Philip: And that is the only way we can be successful. And it's simply not true. It's hard to see it that it's not true because it's modeled to us in a certain way. And so we feel like, okay, if I'm stepping into this role, this is How I have to be, I won't have time. I need to eat during my eat my lunch during meetings.

[00:14:37] Loree Philip: I will, I need to do this. I need to do that. But when we take a step back and we pause and we really look at it, there are a lot of great examples of people who. Hit burnout, who got overwhelmed, who realized that this isn't going to work shifted and saw it could work for them. Are you seeing that with your [00:15:00] clients where just some of these changes and, and they can be successful in their roles?

[00:15:06] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. And I do think it's first challenging the belief system. Like you're saying that, that okay. I think I can't, no, no, I can. I can do this and I can be even better than before. And that's what I sell to my clients is like, just imagine if you actually had some sleep. Like you're amazing, right?

[00:15:28] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: Like just imagine if your brain was rested because the neuroscience is there. You need sleep. So and I, I have watched many women completely ascend and, academia and we have a lot of finance in my area. So in the financial arena by moving differently, by moving differently and their confidence increases too.

[00:15:51] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: So this is a different, like a softer skill than some of what I'm talking about. But just. As they say, no, I can, I can do this in a way that makes sense for [00:16:00] me. I can take up the kind of space that I have quite frankly earned and say, I'm going to go do my lunch break now and go walk around outside and, and they feel more confidence, like more security, which makes them better, which makes them more confident and able to, yeah.

[00:16:20] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: So it all feeds itself. So the woman who is taking time to work out and taking time for breath work in the morning and being nourishing to herself and, and having those meals and having that mental capacity, she's a stronger employee. She's a stronger business woman. She's a stronger entrepreneur, right?

[00:16:42] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: As someone who's recovered, burnout and myself I'm a better clinician now that I have better boundaries in my practice. So I can show up better in the fact that I've done a lot of the transformative work. Because I did that I can show up because I understand what I'm asking of [00:17:00] you, you know, right?

[00:17:02] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: Mm hmm. Yeah,

[00:17:03] Loree Philip: right you gave a really good example of a lot of the things that we can do in terms of sleep and yeah breath work and Boundaries and all the things right? Mm hmm. How do you advise? Clients who are starting at the beginning? Yeah, because It does seem like you can, if you're in overwhelm, all these changes can feel like a lot.

[00:17:29] Loree Philip: Do we start with one thing, integrate that, and then move to the next thing? Or

[00:17:34] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: how, what is your approach? Absolutely. That's a great question, Lori. You're right. When women are in overwhelm, when people are in overwhelm, it's really hard, right? This is a laundry list of things to do. So the first concept I want to answer this in two ways.

[00:17:49] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: First concept I teach is bookends. So I ask women to look at what's happening at the beginning of their day and the end of their day. Right? Because some of the things I'm going to ask [00:18:00] for. to help pull you out of burnout. It's going to have a lot to do with how you start and end your day. Okay. And now I am a holistic practitioner, so I believe in brain, body, mind.

[00:18:12] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: So I'm going to be working kind of brain, body, mind at the same time, because I know that neuroplasticity occurs. The nervous system can remodel itself. Right? You're supposed to be like a fern. You're supposed to bend and not break. So I need to kind of do all the things at one time. So then what I'll do is we'll look at bookends and then I'll say like, what time are you going to bed?

[00:18:37] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: What is your go to bed practice? What's in your bedroom? Let's just look at that. And then what is your wake up look like? Are you hitting snooze a lot? Do you feel rested? What does that look like? And I just get her to start looking at sleep. That's how big sleep is. And then the other thing I will oftentimes do is go in and start to support the adrenals and [00:19:00] the nervous system.

[00:19:00] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: So I'll just say I love ashwagandha. The women in my practice love ashwagandha. It really helps with that sense of overwhelm and it's also protective against Alzheimer's. So it's, it's part of why I use it in my, in my practice is because it helps with the nervous system. It's not a medication and it actually helps the brain longterm and it manages those cortisol levels.

[00:19:24] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: Is it a supplement? It's a supplement. Yes. So ashwagandha is a, is a supplement. It's an herbal that actually helps to go in and, and manage the cortisol levels in the system. Yeah. The stress response, women complain when they're burnt out that they're going from zero to 60. Like, there's just, there's a hair trigger.

[00:19:42] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: It calms some of that down. It calms some of that down. So I'm a big, I'm a big proponent of like supplementation and let's, let's go in there. Not, not Xanax, supplementation. Let's try to use something to help it kind of soften the edges of things.

[00:19:58] Loree Philip: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. [00:20:00] That's great. I hadn't heard of that before.

[00:20:02] Loree Philip: But I also, I, I love the idea of supplements versus medication if possible and things like that. So we're always looking for, things that we can do naturally.

[00:20:14] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: Absolutely. Yeah. Completely natural. Women love it. It, it, it I'm always so shocked how many people come back and are like, Oh, I I stopped taking it.

[00:20:23] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: I was testing it just to see and I can totally tell the difference if I'm not using it. Like it can be a game changer for people. If they're still in like an environment that's really high, high stress, high pressure, it can be the difference. for their nervous system of just kind of navigating that until they can make a pivot or shift.

[00:20:43] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: So bookends beginning and end of the day. And then while this is happening and I'm trying to shift the sleep, I'll use some ashwagandha to soften the system.

[00:20:51] Loree Philip: That's great, Dr. Tiffany. So, and I love that this is where you start because I think when we are historically [00:21:00] overwhelmed in burnout, whatever it is that, that we're feeling, our first instinct is to want to change.

[00:21:07] Loree Philip: Everything on the outside. Yeah, and you're starting internally with sleep regulation of the nervous system And I think this is important shift because once you get to a clear a more clear headed Regulated state you can see much more clearly. What kind of External changes you might be willing in or interested in making absolutely and you're not just firefighting and doing it out of You know just this place of I need change because it's not working right?

[00:21:46] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: Yeah. Yeah, you're absolutely right Yeah, and I see that a lot. You're absolutely right women will start kind of Pulling here and there. And it's like, Whoa, this is an inside job.

[00:21:55] Loree Philip: Yeah. It's all an inside job.

[00:21:59] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: [00:22:00] Like, like you're like, you're supposed to be a fern and bend and not break. So if you're breaking, something needs to be adjusted.

[00:22:07] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: We need to really look and figure out what's going on. So that's a great, great point.

[00:22:11] Loree Philip: Yeah. It's. It's so important that we see that because everything you're describing that's going on with our body impacts the clarity in which we can decide, make make decisions come up with creative ideas, like all the things.

[00:22:32] Loree Philip: And so It's clearing that out. And like you said, when you're selling it to your clients, like imagine if you got a full night's sleep and you felt great and your mind was clear and not scattered and you weren't feeling that energy in your body, that's just causing you to, go from that zero to 60 so quickly, right?

[00:22:55] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: Yes, yes, absolutely. And if I can just teach a little here about something that [00:23:00] introduced all my clients to and I never mentioned these things because I have an affiliation with these companies. I just love like these different things. I recommend. Most women aren't aware that the stress response they're experiencing can be measured.

[00:23:15] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: Now. Like it can always be measured in like the sports arena and cardiovascularly, but because of wearables, like the Ora ring or the whoops, or the different tech, the biohacking tech that's available, your HRV, your heart rate variability can actually be monitored. So monitored. So what is that? That's your stress response.

[00:23:37] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: That is your stress response. I can look at it now, right? So we all like data, especially this population We all like the science and women especially in this in this arena are like, you know I need to be stronger and playing victim. I need to figure it out It's more coffee and then I pulled their numbers and I'm like, oh, no, it's not this [00:24:00] is really happening in their body Look at your HRV overnight and HRV is kind of like if you have a heartbeat and then another heartbeat It's the space between the heartbeats.

[00:24:11] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: It's like music if there's two musical beats It's the space between the beat and what is happening in there and a nervous system that is healthy Has a very high HRV a nervous system that is strong and resilient has a high HRV One that is more prone to mental health issues burnout illness autoimmune disorders Some of your audience is wearing an aura ring right now and I want to say to them, if you were in the teens for your HRV or the low twenties, we have a problem.

[00:24:44] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: I need your HRV to be 35, 40. The men who are running these environments, I've seen their aura rings. Theirs are 60s and 70s, so this is not, this is not having the same effect on them. Oh, [00:25:00] yeah. As it is in that light bulb. That's where I get a woman to save herself. When that light bulb goes off and she's like, I woke up in my HRV, and I have this in my practice with, with tough women running things, their HRV will be a nine.

[00:25:15] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: Or a ten. Yeah. And I'll say this is not, we're at critical mass now. This is not something you're making up. This is actually happening in your body and those surges of energy or foggy, fuzzy thing that's happening or that just, I just want to curl up in a ball and stare at the TV. All of that is actually your autonomic nervous system feeling like it's been chased by a bear or a tiger.

[00:25:42] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: Finally, just like, look, girl, I don't want to do this anymore. I think I just want to go rest and I'm going to, I'm going to make you hide us. Yes. And she won't listen. I'm just going to make you rest. And that's, that's what that is. And so we can measure it, Lori. And I've never been so excited [00:26:00] in my career of like, I can help women see it.

[00:26:04] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: And then I can show them the techniques I give them and prove it.

[00:26:08] Loree Philip: Yeah.

[00:26:09] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: Mm hmm.

[00:26:09] Loree Philip: Yeah. I love that. Thank you for sharing that, Dr. Tiffany. It's so interesting. I was actually thinking about recently getting an aura ring and I was, I, I'm just curious I'm like, I wonder what it says about my sleep.

[00:26:22] Loree Philip: Like, and so the data can be so interesting, but that, that one in particular is, ideally we'd love to get. regulated before burnout, before the extreme, right? Yeah. But how do we know until we're just like, you know what I mean? We're not listening to ourselves. We're not noticing. We're just going through the day to day grind.

[00:26:48] Loree Philip: And so some of these tools can be so useful. So you can start to see it. You can see it. You can see it early. The aura ring will tell you. Like I, I'm

[00:26:57] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: seeing a trend, like it's got, we've got all this AI [00:27:00] now built in. Wow. Yeah. And then it, it used to Lori, it just used to be sleep. And the technology now looks at your stress during the day.

[00:27:09] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: So women will come to their appointments and they'll say, I was in a high stress, not me here. Me here. My whole body was in a stress response for six hours yesterday. Yep. Yeah. I was just activated doing this internally for six hours. And it's like, that's the thing you're ordering. We'll say, what are you going to do to get to a restorative mode?

[00:27:31] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: Before bed so that you can actually recover during your sleep. So when my women will travel, I'll say, let me pull up the numbers. Let me see where your HRV was and your deep sleep and your REM. Let me see where you were while you were gone. And I'm always so proud of them when they took a hit for two days, but they're climbing out of that hole.

[00:27:49] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: And I'm like, look at you go. You're so resilient. Like you're getting like the body went right back into it. Yes. Then we're okay. Then we're okay.

[00:27:57] Loree Philip: Yeah. Yeah. And it's [00:28:00] there. We will all have days and phases in our life where there is more pressure. There are deadlines, there are projects, and so that's going to happen.

[00:28:12] Loree Philip: And so when we get to a place where we can be aware of that, as long as it's not our 24 seven mode of operation. Yes. And shifting it around, like instead of being 80 percent in stress and 20 percent in like a normal state. Yes. Like flip it around, mostly in a normal state and just like a spike here and there that we can address when it comes up.

[00:28:36] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: Exactly. Yes, yes, yes, yes. That's what we're going for. And then you need to know what helps your system thrive versus survive. Right. You need to know what, what's in the toolbox. And I'm always so impressed with my clients that they, they've got their toolbox. They'll tell me, Dr. Tiffany, I was doing my tapping to help get the stress out.

[00:28:57] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: I took my sleep supplements because I was on a [00:29:00] different time zone. I knew which ones to take. This is what I ate for breakfast. And This is what I did for my lunch. This is when I had an opportunity, I took a walk. This is what I'm doing for pleasure and joy when I'm traveling or when I'm at home.

[00:29:13] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: Like they start to know that boss mode includes these things too. Yes. That, that, that maintaining your health is how you ascend as well. And they start to take that really seriously.

[00:29:27] Loree Philip: Yeah, it is exactly from surviving to thriving because the goal isn't for you just to be able to show up. Better, although that would be great, it's this idea that you can be even more and you can be like you said, ascend.

[00:29:47] Loree Philip: And so it's, it's that important. It really is that important. And I, I love this conversation so much. Dr. Tiffany, I could talk to you for hours. But we are going to start to wrap [00:30:00] up and I have a question for you. What, what final advice or tips do you have for our women who are watching this, looking to successfully navigate their careers with more ease, purpose, and confidence?

[00:30:13] Loree Philip: Yeah.

[00:30:14] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: To know that they're worth it. To know that they're worth it and that it, it is okay to do this differently than it's been modeled for us. I I subscribing to that more feminine energy is something that comes from me saying, I know the female brain is different. I've had a brilliant man say, you know what?

[00:30:34] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: You have amazing brains. You women, you women, it's just so different. Your brain. So you have to use that feminine brain and you have to understand your hormones are different. So when I say that feminine energy, that's what I'm talking about. We have to be able to bend and not break.

[00:30:52] Loree Philip: Yeah. Thank you for that.

[00:30:54] Loree Philip: And I know you have a free gift lined up for the audience. Will you tell us about it?

[00:30:59] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: Yes. [00:31:00] Yes. So I have a training. It's on the homepage of my website at doc brownbush. com. So doc brownbush. com and it is a brain warriors way training. And it's, it's the kind of the foundational level so that you don't get too overwhelmed of just how do you make your nervous system more resilient?

[00:31:19] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: What are the key points? What, what, what, if I had time to go into kind of some of the foods and then some of the like hydration strategies and some of my thoughts about sleep, what would those be? That's what's in the brain warriors way training. And I think it kind of gives you the ground floor of just how to have a more resilient nervous system.

[00:31:38] Loree Philip: Great. Great. It sounds really interesting. I hope everybody checks it out. Yes. And I appreciate you, Dr. Tiffany. Thank you for sharing your insights, your wisdom, and bringing your energy today.

[00:31:52] Dr. Tiffany Brown-Bush: Thank you. Thank you for having me. It's been wonderful.

[00:31:55] Loree Philip: Awesome.

[00:31:56] Loree Philip: Thank you so much for listening to this episode. If [00:32:00] you've enjoyed it, I would love for you to join me and the amazing lineup of speakers at the Ready to Shine summit. You can get your free ticket at www.readytoshinesummit.com. I hope you have an amazing week. It's your time to shine. Bye.